Re: Reality.

> > I guess then the only thing that matters is what you choose to think of as
> > reality and what is not. For me, reality is the things around me, the stabl
> > things, and what is fiction is the all the religions which claim that there
> > is a god. As I have stated before I believe in Spirits and those kind of
> > things however I dont see much need for a god or a devil or anything like
> > that...
>      Well it is not a choise, Reality is the pain you suffer.
>      Nothing is for ever, pain and happines are the same.

No, they are at opposite ends of the spectrum. Perhaps you are just not
differentiating between the two? C'mon, it's not hard! Return to the most
pleasant memory you can find, one that's not linked to a painful one. Most
anyone can do this, sans drugs and other inhibitors... You will find that it
was very different from pain.

>      The way we train our childeren to experence reality is the way
>      the child will see the world. So what if I train the child to
>      see the world as a shaman? He will end up in the Nut house because
>      what he experence is not the reality of others.

Reality: The way we agree things are. Actuality: The way things ACTUALLY are.

>      Maybe one day you will awaken and find that the things around you like
>      table and chair are not what you though they where. Hopefull you will
>      have practize your mind to deal with that awarness. If not you beter
>      find a good psychaitrist>"/>

...so that he can sit in a nuthouse while his health insurance runs dry, and
when that happens, get thrown unceremoniously out in the street?

>      It is very hard for me to explain how and what reality is.
>      Sure I live in a real world and will not cross a road with out watching
>      for cars first.  But once in meditation I leave this awarness and inter
>      a different time world place without leaving this one. The scary part
>      is that my worlds can flow over. And what I do in one will have effect
>      in the other.

Just keep the data from the two realities in different folders!

>      wel enough of this at 5 in the morning...:}

I know where you're coming from on that one.