Re: The Universe.

>      By "universe" I thought we were speaking of the astronomical universe of
> all physical matter, and not the broader sense that would take into account
> the perceived. Is this what is blocking my view here? It seems illogical
> otherwise.
>      Anyway, thanks for the offering of the different view. It seems that to
> disallow them and their effects is an option I am curiosly without!
>                                  ��Crloan

I guess maybe sometimes I get too esoteric. The main problem here may be the
(MY) defination of "REALITY" as 'esoterically' applies! (Say what?)
"Reality" is that which YOU, I, anyone can get AGREEMENT on. Ie. if we both
agree that the 'sky is blue' WE have a REALITY between us.
Reality on VIEWPOINTS & OPINIONS is what posters here are TRYING TO GET! Ie.
agreement of what the POSTER thinks is TRUTH.
OTOH I also believe that "all viewpoints are valid" for their beholders, which
is WHY I go around offering NEW/different viewpoints to people.
Bottom line, then is: There is ONLY ONE Universe & EACH of us perceives
slightly/greatly DIFFERENT universes.
Dave B.